Blogger's note: Part two of a short series on O-R sports writer Mike Kovak's travels through the football preseason.
When Ed Dalton stepped onto the practice field for the first time as head football coach at Trinity High School in Aug. 1999, he couldn't believe what he saw.
Somehow, in football-crazed Western Pennsylvania, Trinity, despite a sizable enrollment, fielded an inexperienced roster.
"Our first team had 50 kids of which nine played football before," Dalton said. "None of them played ninth grade football."
Among Dalton's early duties was to institute a youth program and create a different atmosphere. Before Dalton arrived at Trinity, the Hillers had won two playoff games.
If Trinity wasn't the laughingstock of WPIAL football, it was awfully close.
More than a decade later, things are decidedly different.
Trinity has produced a steady stream of Division I recruits, with the most recent being senior Ken Wilkins, who will play for Michigan next fall. The Hillers have also become postseason regulars.
Maybe the process took longer than expected but, now that Trinity has steadied itself, the Hillers want to take the logical next step.
"I don't know what it is that we don't have. We have the facilities. The kids work hard. We have talent," Dalton said. "At some point, you've got to become responsible for yourself."
The Hillers finished 5-5 last year and, thanks to a couple late wins, reached the WPIAL Class AAA playoffs out of the Big Seven Conference. Eight starters return on offense and defense but Thomas Jefferson remains the heavy favorite to win another Big Seven and WPIAL championship.
"What (TJ) has is what we want," Dalton said. "We need to come up and beat one of these teams. When that happens, we'll know what it takes to compete as a football team."
87 comments:
Mike did you attend the trinity wash high scrim. if so what did you think about it??
Sad to report, but Trinity dominated Wash Hi. The Prexies did have one long run on a sweep, looked like the kid was hit in the backfield, broke out of another tackle and scampered down the sideline until tackled, but other than that, Wash Hi got manhandled up front by the D line of Trinity. They couldn't even get a snap off and were sacked about 5 times, fumbled a few because of the nose tackle from Trinity, and stuffed in the backfield about 5 more. Trinity looked impressive! Trinity's varsity offense only went against Wash Hi 1 time and they marched right down the field and scored.
dont know what game anon watched, but trinity did not march right down the field on wash high.trinity offense looked pathetic. keystone oakes shut them down except for 2 comeback screens. bosnic is still moving players around and wash high is making plenty of mistakes but give them time its the 1st scrimmage. tj will destroy trinity.
I was there trinity dominated wash high.. Trinitys D is better now then it was with the big 3 (yanchich sweat weaver)
the burning question for the bloggers is how will the hiring of bucci at bethel park impact trinity football?
Wow Prexie, from what I saw, Trinity went right down the field in 8 plays and scored. On their bad plays, they still gained a few yards. Two runs by Steratore. The first for about 15 yards and another for about 40. The two Trinity WR's both pealed back and crushed two Wash Hi defenders! A couple of runs by the McWreath kid for 5 or 10 yards, and a TD pass right down the middle of the field! How is that a pathetic offense? And for the record, going 70 yards in 8 plays IS marching right down the field! Far from Pathetic, and done without the #1 running back (Miller). The short yardage runs were by a sophomore!
i agree trinity dominated washington but washington also had 2 starting lineman out. again dont know what game you watched i was also there. by the way washington has a trio of backs who have just turned 15 yrs old give them time. trinity d looked good thanks to #31. but keystone oaks shut down trinity run game completly.sorry maybe 5 and 5 again
The Trinity Hype machine is alive and well after that GREAT 5-5 season!!!
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Keep spitting out those D1 kids and losing to average teams. Trinity is a joke.
Off topic but you all should get out and see Penn Trafford this year. Word is they are loaded with talent. They have an innovative offense that wil light the scoreboard. Lokk out WPIAL her comes coach Wiley and the Warriors.
Does Wash High have any depth at the "skill" positions? That seemed to hurt them last year too.
Trinity a joke?!! They have produced 10 division 1 kids and are in the playoffs every year now. Something that has not been done for DECADES!!! I know they have not won the big games, but compared to most teams up and down the area, they are head and heals above the rest. They still need to knock of TJ, but please remember, TJ is the 2 time state champs and they have been to Heinz for the past 6 years.
Trinity is doing very well, so you people can hate on them if you want, but what Dalton has done the past 10 years is very impressive. No other coach at Trinity has accomplished what he has in this century. Let alone the the other sports! The sports at Trinity are doing very well. Wrestling is the only sport not up to par, but they will be soon. Baseball is great as is the softball team, basketball is doing well, track is winning titles, and dont forget....The riffle team is the best in the state!!! Go Riffle!! Yea, that sounds like a joke to me!! For a school that was only known for Riffle and band, they have come a long way under Dalton as Coach and AD!
we have mad depth at the backfield position and at wide reciever. mike just has to figure were to use everyone. a 14 yr old ran 70 yrds against trinitys #1 great defense. these young kids have great speed and great vision and time will prove that. these kids all need to find playing time. we will see what kind of coach mike is.i think he'll do fine.
To the anon poster 0n 8/23 @ 10:17PM. I believe that McGuffey won the 2009 state rifle championship. Mt Lebanon was second with Trinity taking the 3rd spot. Just to set
the record straight.
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You can make all the claims you want about how improved the program is, thats great. The truth is that they are a second tier program at BEST. They got blown out by CM, TJ, CV and lost to weak BV and Indiana, thats not a strong program.
Combined score of TJ and CM games, 70-7?
Explain that! People want to hype them every year, but the truth is they stink. Sorry to spell out the truth to you, but outside of Washington they are a joke.
Can Trinity win their opener against Canon-McMillan? Other than Hull and maybe Hagan, I don't know that C-M has any playmakers. For example, do they have a QB? If not, I'd consider putting Mike Hull there and having him do his Wpial version of Tim Tebow at Florida.
Trinity can win. They have the talent to do so. They just need to learn how to win in the post season. There are a ton of athletes that are on that team. They should do very well this year.
Here is a question for all you PT people (or just the one deranged PT poster). Please give me proof, factual evidence that PT has improved that much since their 2-7 campaign last season. And please stay away from "ehrenburg is awesome" or "we have great speed". Please give some insightful, detailed analysis.
You know, I have to point something out here. These Wash High people liked to blurt it out how they would crush trinity years ago and (we) Trinity people just went ahead and ate our humble pie. Now after years of restructuring and solid proof that a well coached totally new program that has been in effect for several years; Trinity seems to manhandle Wash High every time they play them physically, mentally and every other way possible. Now my only question to the "lovely" Wash High people (and yes I say that with sarcasm) is: where is your humble pie and why aren't you digging in? You come up with every excuse to be thought of other than you were outclassed for the last several years by a constantly improving football team that now has great leadership. One more thing for the Prexie people.. While you all were going to playoffs and winning titles we were happy for you! Maybe you should keep that in mind now that we have a little good fortune. One last note. It's not good when a team is not good and they make excuses and trash a team that has no doubt improved. As for TJ, CV etc.. Don't you worry about them. If we can't beat them.. you definately can't. Think about it. We mandhandle Wash High now. Prexies = old news.
hahah man handle that yeah you had you so called big three you didnt do anything We (WASH HIGH) punished you and drove it down your throught the whole dame second play of the game joey ward went 80 yards untouched for a td you couldnt move the ball by the end of the game weaver couldnt remember where he was and trinity scored only once they got punished the entire game and you havent been a better program sure you guys have done good but who is the one that doesnt want to play us anymore who stopped the great rivaly? and just for the record WASH HIGH 06 would have crushed the hillers
Weezy, wow, you really demonstrated that Wash Hi education in that little paragraph! Well done my friend! Excellent Grammar!! Obviously you should have concentrated more on your studies and a little less on Football!
Weezy Prexie, That might have been the worst paragraph that I have read since 1st grade. I counted 12 missed spelled words, run on sentences ( no periods) grammer was 70 IQ or less. Wash High education, 2nd to everybody.
Hey, don't classify all of the Wash High students with Weezy. There are a boatload of excellent student athletes. It is unfortunate but the mentality at Wash High right now is based on excuses for lack of talent. Maybe the talent is there but the heart and dedication is not. There are a bunch of good kids that attend that school and the minority of them place a stigma on the whole district. Some kids would rather talk trash then work harder to get better so that their play on the field talks for them. It is just like saying that because some PT kids are rich, whiny brats that they all are.....
Weezy, one more correction on your car wreck of a response.
Weezy: "but who is the one that doesnt want to play us anymore who stopped the great rivaly? and just for the record WASH HIGH 06 would have crushed the hillers"
Trinity is back to playing Wash High again in that rivalry(or lack thereof). Now your saying in 06' when they didn't play the Prexies would have won?!? Thats classic. Well how about you forget your imagination for a moment and tell me in reality what went wrong in 07' and 08'? It will be good to hear more excuses. Wanna hear something better? As long as Ed Dalton is at Trintiy Wash High will NEVER beat Trinity!
Why are Trinity & Washington fans having a heated discussion about whose team is better when they haven't played each other for years. A scrimmage does not a football game make. Grow up and save your venom for the real thing.
These so called WASH HIGH fans are disgracing the name they think they are representing. I can assure you Trinity fans that although you are our most hated rival, majority of wash high supporters do like to see you succeed, just not against us, haha. Please do not let the emotions of some cry baby athletes smear the prexie name that many people carry with pride. To you so called WASH HIGH supporters on here, grow up and work harder. If you quit worrying about these blogs and spent more time working out and doing school work, maybe we'd have better teams and academics.
about the scrimmage. it was agreed apon that there would be no blitzing yet after wash highs back ran 70 yrds down field they blitzed the next play. they teach holding and they teach how to push off the recievers, because they say they dont call offensive interference in high school. i'm sorry but i'm not rooting that team on.
That is one problem with Wash High athetes. They are too worried about talk and not about results. Work harder to get better, bottom line. The problem with some of these kids is that they just don't get it in sports and in life.
More Excuses... Im sure the teach the nose tackle to destroy your center too
I love how Trinity people always get excited preseason and then the team underachieves every year. Get all of your talk out of the way now because when CM and TJ CRUSH you again, you will all go away.
Trinity football = A JOKE!
i'm not giving excuses, im just saying what kind of crazy coaching trinity has. i dont want my kids to go thru life having this guy as a mentor. these kids are working hard, alot harder than years past, and they will get better.
Trinity vs Wash High debate? Interesting. Who gets the nod at qb? rb? defense? I think that the only way you can compare them is to go head to head, in a real game. That hasn't happened in a long time. It doesn't look like it is going to happen in the near future either. The rest of the debate is opinion. As of now it comes down to who does the best talking.
The Trinity vs. Wash High debate will end very soon as they will merge to become 1 high school within the next couple of years. It is inevitable, Wash High does not have the tax base to continue long term.
I can see it now, the Trinity Prexies.
How about the Washington Area Cadets. School colors, red, white and blue, of course.
It would be interesting to see what would happen to the athletics if the two schools actually merged. With the athletes that Wash High has with the discipline and structure that Trinity has, they should do very well. They should be the team to beat in any sport for that matter.
It would be a great sight to see.. but this rumor has been going on for ten years i dont see it happening anytime soon
OK, to the guy that said Trinity football = A JOKE!
Dear kind sir, think before you talk. The reflection of the prexies being thrown around buy Trinity Area for a third preseason meeting make Wash High look worse.
Moving forward, I don't see trinity Area And Washington High School districts merging. If by any wierd chance they were to merge we would first have to target who the new team would be playing. Of course, with trinity being a larger triple A school and Washington being a double A school they would be a larger quad A school in football. Therefore, they would be playing the likes of Upper St. Clair, Peters Twp., Baldwin etc. And in the playoffs usually: Central Catholic, USC, Penn Hills, North Hills, North Allegheny, Woodland Hills etc. (the usual suspects). I think with the speed that washington players churn out and the size and power that Trinity brings out every year,this would possibly a team that beats that USC, Central Catholic, Woodland Hills etc.
OH!.. Not to mention giving the Prexies fans back what they seek the most... redemption against Guy Motecalvo in the form of beating his Cannon McMillan Big-Macs!!!
Yeah, Trinity can't win games in AAA and all of a sudden they will be the great power in AAAA?
You Trinity fans make CM fans look intelligent, which is really hard to do.
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whats the overall record. trinity is under achievers. wash high has been down but trinity was the wpial doormat. if the O_R would quit hyping every sport at trinity they to would have some credibility. who has three dI lB's and get ran on for 275+ yards. Then report how many tackles a player made and the stat guy for trinity going on record and asaying the other team didn;t even run that many plays.
I want to address seemingly Prexie fans on this blog. First, the Thomas Jefferson issue. Yeah, They have Trinity's and everyone elses number in the state for that matter. Kinda Like Waynesburg beating Wash High year after year.
As far as Trinity being hyped, so what? Trinity is hyped because they were a traditionaly losing team. Now they are doing better and people cry about it and point out how they are not so good. Wash High was being hyped before and nobody said anything. Now their like the child that feels he doesn't get enough attention so he wants to pout about it. Grow up man.
I'm going to say something that has only to do with the prexie fans and education. The kids from Trinity work hard as do the kids from Wash High. The only difference is the uneducated fanbase that gives them a bad reputation. Trinity has a little bit of time earned in the sun and prexie fans have to be immature and make excuses and speak poorly of them. Shame on your representation of a school that deserves more than that kind of fan.
What's funny is when Washington townies get on here and play like they're smart talking about Trinity people and Cannon Mac people being dumb. That's laughable. Who'd have thought little Washington contained the brains of the universe while they wear their Tazmanian devil shirts and whatever else was in style ten 15 years ago?
Hey Trinity loser from 8:10 PM:
Trinity have its time in the sun??????
What, for their rifle team?
Trinity Football, time in the sun?
Thats hilarious. They were 5-5 last year? They got blown out by TJ and CM and Char Valley.
Yes, TJ is a great team, CM and Char Valley, PLEASE!
Keep drinking the Eddie Coolaid, Trinity football is a joke, always has been always will be.
Name another team in history that had 3 D1 linebackers on the same team and gave up 40 plus points 3 times in the same season.
Good luck with that one.
Fact: Wash High is down.
Fact: Dalton bailed out of the series fearing further defeats to WHS. Now that things are reversed, people want to put stock in a scrimmage between teams.
Fact: Washington has a long road ahead of itself.
Fact: Trinity, currently, is the better team.
Fact: Trinity has won zero championships under Mr. Dalton.
Fact: Thomas Jefferson doesn't have Trinity's "Number." TJ is just plain better. It's a better program. Period.
Fact: Trinity always seems to think its going to be good.
Fact: The Hillers have gained some respect under Dalton. However, it's not like the past when only two teams made the playoffs from each conference. It's much easier to make it now.
Fact; Trinity did have some good teams under Bob Johnson and had a nice team in 1994 under Ted Petersen.
Prediction: Trinity will disappoint again. The Hillers will make the playoffs. But all this talk. Oh yes, once again Trinity is "Next Year's Champion."
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As far as Wash High goes, I know it only takes one bad apple to spoil the whole bunch but quit slamming the entire school!! There are plenty of great student athletes that graduate from the district every year. Football is rebuilding after several years on the downswing. Basketball is going into newly uncarted waters and baseball has been less than impressive. All three of these sports have replaced coaching legends in recent years. The amount of seasons that it takes to get back to respectability is going to depend on some unproven coaches. Let's give them a chance and see what kind of results come along. Just because Ben Roethlisberger is in a lawsuit, does that make the entire Steelers team a bunch of criminals?
I think most of the bashers on here (both Hillers and Prexies ) are idiots. These are High school kids, teenagers. when Wash Hi went to states, so did a lot of Hiller fans and a lot of Washington and Greene county fans also. Yea, it's ok to brag when you win but also have some class. Trinity looked good against Wash Hi and so so against KO. Dalton, always tell everyone this year we have a good team, thats part of coaching. If your team belives in you as coach, you won half the battle. I've seen Trinity teams that looked bad playing the Prexies and still had a good year. The scrimmage ( not a Game) is over move on. Good luck Hillers and Prexies. Live for the future not the past.
Bottom line. Wash High is not the program they once were.They always have some good players. Trinity is steadily getting better in terms of ongoing solid teams. Thomas Jefferson has had better teams but I don't necessarily know that you can accurately say TJ has a better program... unless of course you're in both camps and training with both. All speculation otherwise.
That last post is comical...sounds like a Trinity football parent.
HOW CAN YOU HONESTLY SAY THAT TJ IS NOT THE BETTER PROGRAM????
No question Coach Dalton has done some good things at Trinity - but he will tell you himself; they want what TJ has built.
Be realistic...TJ has only lost 1 conference game since 2005. That level of consistency means that you have a fantastic program - you're not some flash in the pan or one hit wonder; like Franklin Regional in 2005 or Montour in 2007.
While Trinity seems to be getting better, they are no where near TJ right now. How can anyone question that?
While you were going off on a tangent, you forgot the point. Nobody said Trinity was as good as or better than TJ. I love your optimism too. Nice, sounds like a Trinity parent. As you sound like someone who's fallen through the cracks in Washington. Actually Ace, I graduated from Trinity years ago and don't live in PA anymore. And they don't "want what TJ has built". They want to beat TJ. They want to have success. What team doesn't? What's your point? Is that stupid to set your goals high? Explain yourself so I can understand your logic and your point.
Hey genius...Dalton was actually quoted as having said that himself in the Trib a few weeks back. It was in one of the articles for the BIG 7 conference kickoff meeting back in the beginning of August. Maybe you should ask him yourself what he meant since your a Trinity grad and all.
My post was primarily in reference to this...
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Thomas Jefferson has had better teams but I don't necessarily know that you can accurately say TJ has a better program... unless of course you're in both camps and training with both. All speculation otherwise.
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TJ has been the model program in AAA around here for almost 10 years now; Trinity isn't even close to them, but according to this guy; TJ's not a better program. In spite of their staggering win totals over that time, its all just speculation.
Quite possibly one of the funnier posts that I've ever seen here. I thought I made that abundantly clear in my previous post. Sorry you found it so confusing...ACE.
Let me spell it out for you Mr. Thomas Jefferson High School front row fan. Trinity never really had a program. So they haven't had leadership like this before. They are making solid improvements. They are getting better. When these guys on the team graduate, what are you going to do when other teams start beating TJ? Program to me means leadership. It seems to me that you are talking more about players and team years. I'm going to lose my mind if your little jaguars get ousted this year buddy. See it's good to be the underdog sometimes then we get the honor of seeing the mighty fall hard at some point. Cheers to TJ's biggest cheerleader!
I would like to thank Coach Dalton for all of his posts in here in support of himself and Trinity. I know there is no one in the district that believes he is doing as great of a job as the poster on here does so its either big Eddie himself or one of his minnions/coaches.
There is alot negative, pessemistic attitude toward THS in here. What gives?
It has got to be a bunch of CM or PT whiners. I personally don't know Mr Dalton but I do know that success breeds jealousy. It is natural for inferiors to lash out. Don't sweat it Trinity.
Wow...I'm absolutely stunned.
I guess I shouldn't be though.
First...I've said it quite a few times now but I guess it bears repeating; TRINITY IS ON THE RIGHT TRACK. Dalton is doing a very nice job - everyone affiliated with the Trinity FB program should be really proud of the way things are going.
There is no avoiding that you tried to say that TJ isn't a better program than Trinity right now and that simply isn't the case and the numbers back that up. The even funnier part of that is no matter how ridiculous your opinion may be - you really believe it!
Even if Trinity were to beat TJ this year, they still wouldn't be "a better program" yet. It has nothing to do with "cheerleading" - it's all about results. I have no idea what you are talking about with the leadership thing. I've seen plenty of coaches who display tremendous leadership - but couldn't get their kids to win a single game so good luck there.
I give up...some people just can't stand when logic and facts get in the way of their opinions. :)
I'm still struggling with the leadership thing...so you're saying that over the last 15 years or so; you're not sure that TJ has had the "leadership" that Trintiy is getting right now - is that what you mean, or is this strictly speculation?
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wow, i think i'll stay out of this talk. maybe i'll go have a beer with wheezy prexie (no relation by the way) it may be a better conversation, entertaining anyway.one last thing i will say is good luck to all the kids.
Mr. TJ fan,
It's great that Thomas Jefferson Jaguars have such a rich winning tradition and every team wants to win in that fashion. However, when it comes to fans like yourself, the school undeservingly get's a black eye because of the way you conduct yourself.
I don't get it? What exactly are you looking for from me? To convince me? To prove me wrong? about what? Dalton and his staff are a good set up and I'm sure he works with the program just as hard as TJ's coaches. That was my point.
Where are you getting in the last 15 years or so? Who said that? What's wrong with you? Are you having conversation with yourself?
It seems your contorting what I've said to make a argument for yourself. Honestly man, grow up.
I said that they (THS) haven't had a good program and now they do with the leadership. So to answer your question, YES, I do think that the program that the hiller football players are in is a good one and why not just as good as TJ? Some TJ players have played alot longer and may have better skills but as far as how the hillers are disciplined now and trained, yes, I would argue that it's just as good. A big issue for Trinity has been the lack over program power. Players not playing football until high school. Dalton is turning that around and getting to the elemetary level. promoting football so these kids have a solid foundation to work with and are better in varsity as an outcome. That's what I was talking about.
anon: " I've seen plenty of coaches who display tremendous leadership - but couldn't get their kids to win a single game so good luck there."
Trinity has won games. Why good luck? You don't make sense. KID, your gonna have a RUDE awakening when a TJ get's lit up and I'm gonna enjoy it and think about the stalker bum on the blog after it happens and have a good laugh.
Now, unfortunately this is getting lame. Your getting up and posting as your first priority in the morning. Wish I could roominate all night and my only problem in like was to make someone like the high school I liked. LOL
Trinity poster:
Nice rambling diatribe that meant absolutely nothing. I hope you graduated at or near the bottom of your class or the Trinity education might actually be MORE pathetic than the football program.
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This time next week your Hillers will be 0-1. Enjoy your undefeated season while it lasts!
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Considering how busy football coaches are this time of year, I seriously doubt they have time to post let alone read this blog.
Just a thought.
Listen, wether Trinity go's 10-0 or 0-10, I will follow and support every game. That school has given me alot.
As for graduating at the bottom of the class; I'm not sure why that would come up? The education must have done something for me. I own my own business and am successful at what I do. So let's not assume, when you do that we both end up looking stupid.
GOOD HEALTH AND GOOD LUCK TO ALL WPIAL TEAMS THIS YEAR! ESPECIALLY THE HILLERS AND PREXIES!
trinity is a joke look the football program is overrated they got a preseaon ranking 3 in the wpial come on now the got one player an thats wilkins miller showed some some skills last year but the D is soft wilkins plays D Tackle now miller plays linebacker I cant wait for hull to run all over them beacuse the will get out coached like the always do hull too fast an trinity not fast enough same story diffrent year
CM T.J an CV will beat trinity they have no athletes to run spread aginst good teams with good coaching they run a 3-5-3 defense who do they think they are WVU well there not beacuse the socre 35points a game an trinity cant
Trinity fans.
Enjoy the final 5 days of your undefeated season. All the hype comes to an end Friday Night.
PLEASE STOP - you made a foolish post that's all...no harm done. The more you post the harder it is to understand you.
For the record...(I'm Mr. TJ fan) I'm actually a Trinity fan - I just try to be as realistic as possible - you should look into that sometime.
All I wanted to do is point out a totally ridiculous post, that's all. How is this diatribe supposed to make sense of your idea that TJ doesn't have a better program than Trinity does right now?
This kind of nonsense makes Trinity fans look insane.
* Unless you really are Dalton - in which case; good luck this year! I hope you guys do finally beat TJ!
ANYWAY...think about this.
When was the last time you heard someone say..."I can't wait to see your little Hillers ousted in the playoffs this year...!"
When people who have nothing to do with your team start saying things like that; you know that you've built one heck of a program.
TJ is at that point right now, Trinity is not.
There's no shame in that, it's just the way it is.
No speculation there.
Whew...I just finished reading your entire post. I need to lie down now.
I bet you're totally exhausted from first, having your grandson explain to you that you can actually see when all these posts are actually placed - then all that pointless typing as well.
Take it easy MISTER, relax and have a drink or something.
Maybe there's an AARP function down at the local VFW tonight, I bet you can find something there to wash down your Geritol.
- much love
the KID
(blog stalker)
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Trinity = Just another Washington County team playing for second place in its conference.
Trinity looked good on Friday agaist Uniontown. The lone disappointment was the Wilkens kid going to Michigan. He spent the entire scrimmage either on his back or walking around, PATHETIC!! CM will run right at him all night and roll the Hillers. If he is going to Michigan the entire CM O-Line will be getting offers from SEC schools after they are done with the great Ken Wilkins.
ROLL Big Macs!!!
Tick, tick, tick Trinity, 4 days left in your undefeated season. Another summer of unrelenting hype down the drain.
This time next week Trinity will be 0-1.
It's good to see that the CM football players have chimed in on this blog. I am glad that you have confidence in your team. However, this forum is not a place to talk trash. From what I see in all of these blogs is that CM "faithful" use these forums as a sounding board when they don't have the guts to do it face to face.
Let's not be stupid! Big Mac football players are in school at 7:30 and do not have access to any blogs. These postings look to me like a Trinity PERSON (wonder who?) trying to get their kids fired up. My son plays so I know, they are told to stay away from these blogs. I don't know all the names, but I also know they have much respect for the Trinity players especially Wilkins and Bryent.
they did say ken wilkins got ran over and was out of the scrimmage. word is, he has the frame for football but he is soft. from watching play a few times i tend to agree.
just look at the last 25 years. wash high is ranked 9th in the wpial with wins. there is no comparison with the wash high program with any other local team. we went through a cycle of bad times however just watch who plays for the prexies this year. the line-up will be full of fresh and sophs and few juniors. better times are ahead, thats a fact.
Then save it for the future because this year Wash High probably wont win a game!!!
Wilkins soft??????
How come you picked that up and Michigan didn't?????? Along with 20-30 other schools.
Wash High Stop Living In The Past And Future Its whats going on now that counts!!! And as for Wilkins being soft, you cant lead a team in tackles and be soft.. The kids a great football player end of story...
CM and Peters Twp are the biggest trash talking hype machines. Neither have done a thing in the last few years. Yet Trinity is their target. Let me ask you jealous Big Macs and Indians fans: There are 73 post now and counting.. more than any other blog. So my question is are you trying to convince Trinity or yourself that they are not good?
Peters and CM are bigger schools but seem to have separation anxiety from the Trinity blog. What's your fascination?
Wash high fan. So we're now gonna be desperate and stoop low enough to go back into the 25 year archives to save face for the prexies? Really?
Don't take it the wrong way but you're in a THS blog so what do you expect? Either you're in here to give Trinity respect or trying to salvage the last time there was any sign of life with the Prexies.
You chose the latter which is in a way stealing Trinity's thunder.
Wash High's been gettin' served every august for the last two or three years by Trinity. Eat some humble pie in this blog.
Congratulations, you bashers of Trinity parents all they do is talk after there playoff drubbing every till they get there yearly drubbing from the Big Macs and they leave the stadium calling Dalton every name in the book traditional Trinity.
To the poster at 3:09- It appears as though your priorities are not right. If Trinity is terrible, why are you focusing your time on them? Don't you have bigger badder teams in your on Quad A schedule that matter more? Sounds like worry to me.
If you claim it's not I recommend focus on teams that destroyed Canon Mac last year. If you'd like I can go into the WPIAL archives and get some exact scores so you know what teams crushed Canon Mac. It won't be a problem. Want me to?
I DO!!
Canon Mac -0 Shaler -16
Canon Mac -0 Butler Area- 18
(*note Butler had a 3-6 record)
Anything else that you need, well you just let me know cupcake. Thanks for wanting to see it. It's my pleasure to post that info.
Let's throw Peters under the bus as well while we're at it:
Peter's was 2-7 last year
most of the games they played they only scored in single digits and were usually beat by upwars or 20 or more points.
Now please, let's leave Trinity be. At least when they got blown out it was by an eventual state champ or formidable opposition. Not a 3-6 team that got smashed by everyone but shut CM out.
As for Peter's there's no reason really to even say more than they barely won a game and usually got steamrolled all year. A doormat if you will. No room for them to talk whatsoever.
Looks to me like this blog is done. Nothing more to bash Trinity about, from PT and CM, by looking at the game results posted early this morning. Although, knowing PT and CM fans/players, they are still in denial and will fight to the end that those are not the "true game results". Funny how that happens. The first step to recovery is admission of the problem....
Ostara
Me thinks you forgot how TRINITY got blown out by CM the last two years by a combined 66-7. (unless you want to include a score each year against our JV's) Also me thinks you forgot how CM beat Upper ST. Clair, MT. Lebo and Woodland Hills all in the same year in 2008. When may I ask has TRINITY accomplished a feat like that? #1 Mike Toward will torch you tonight!
To the last poster who has alot of stuff to say but no name or doesn't know how to post his name -
I understand what you are saying. I also understand that has nothing to do with the fact that Butler blew Canon McMillan out 18-0 and finished 3-6. What your doing is called deflecting. I produced the information that you pushed me to bring forth. When I do, you deflect the point and go off on another tangent grabbing at strings. So essentially we went from finding the information you wanted to see to you trying to manipulate and change the whole topic.
Canon Mac should be beating Trinity in my honest opinion. That's like a heavyweight fighting a cruiserweight or light heavyweight it terms of THS being AAA and Canon Mac being AAAA. Do you understand that that's significant?
Congrats on the wins, however, what did USC, Woodland hills and Mt. Lebo do last year?
MT. Lebonon 2-7
Woondland Hills 4-6
USC 6-4
Really? Those are your big accomplishments you want to talk about? Most AAA teams probably would have beaten Mt. Lebonon. Woodland HIlls had a terrible year for them being who they are. Yeah, you beat them but 5 other teams did as well. Upper St. Clair was far from the juggernaut that they usually are as well. So now, what was your point about these teams you said CM beat?
What was Canon Mac's record? You do know that you look rediculous in here fighting with me about your quad A team being better than a Triple A team.. right? Or did I bring that to your attention?
This is my point your telling me Mike is gonna torch and this and that but seriously, it's a triple A team. If Canon Mac is so good why do you feel that you need to prove a point against a Trip. A team that is not in their conference or classification?
lol trinity got rocked and wash high got a shutout if trinity didnt cheat in that scrimmage it would have been a wrap wash high crushes lets blitz every play even tho the coaches decided not to blitz before the game trinity lol i guees trinity saved themselves embarassment by cheating great job fellas lol
last poster:
lol trinity got rocked and wash high got a shutout if trinity didnt cheat in that scrimmage it would have been a wrap wash high crushes lets blitz every play even tho the coaches decided not to blitz before the game trinity lol i guees trinity saved themselves embarassment by cheating great job fellas lol
Please learn how to spell so that people don't have a hard time trying to find out what garbage you are trying to produce.
Wash High played a team that is not great AT ALL. Trinity played a good quad A team. Trinity didn't get "rocked". They got beat. They were winning.
Stop with your idiocy already, Trinity SMASHED Wash High in the scrimmy. So if someone got "ROCKED", it was the Prexies. You know that yourself. The time has passed. Get over it.
Waynesburg is not anywhere near a tough team. Comparing Waynesburg to CM is a joke and makes me not really even want to respond because it shows how absent minded you are.
You're saying the THS cheated. Please explain how? Did the refs forget to show up? Did Wash High not host therefore have home field advantage? Are you saying that they cheated because they agreed not to blitz? So when Trinity wins, they cheated? is that how bums call it now? I would be interested in knowing if that is the truth and also who came up with that idea. I think Wash High was done a favor if Dalton agreed to that favor. Let's not be idiots on here.
Don't blog as if knowbody knows the wiser. Several people were there and saw Trinity out play, out score and outwit the Prexies. That's for sure! You need to come to the realization. It's happened the last 3 years.
Yeah, Trinity has beat up on the prexies 07, 08 and 09. Did they cheat every year? Man, they must need new officials!?!? LOL
Me thinks you forgot how TRINITY got blown out by CM the last two years by a combined 66-7. (unless you want to include a score each year against our JV's) Also me thinks you forgot how CM beat Upper ST. Clair, MT. Lebo and Woodland Hills all in the same year in 2008. When may I ask has TRINITY accomplished a feat like that? #1 Mike Toward will torch you tonight!
September 4, 2009 8:38 AM
Me thinks you's a cave man. Oonga boonga. P.S. never heard the name Mike Toward the entire night.
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